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Malaysian Rattler's avatar

Could I ask for some clarity? :

1. Who was Audrey actually? - was she a friend of yours, a member or a person who worked in church?

2. Why do you contest Dinesh's pastorship?

3. What was toxic about Dean Andrew's leadership?

4. What do you feel the church could have done better?

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PLUCare's avatar

Sure you can. Here are my replies;

1. Audrey was a brief friend of mine. She was a member of St Mary's Cathedral. I was reliably informed that she has always been attending the church.

2. I contest Dinesh's pastorship because he is unqualified and he is not above reproach. He also has some afflictions of his own. Plus, he was the last pastoral member who spoke with Audrey before she decided to unalive herself. It is totally unacceptable that Andrew Cheah would allow Dinesh to ascend to a pastoral role.

3. His complicity. He knows what goes on in the church. How church attendees like me are mistreated and he just continues to be business as usual. Tuesday Night Training. Christianity Explored. KVBC Camp. He is toxic because he always makes excuses for the toxicity of the church members and he is a very weak leader. He cannot lead the church. In fact the church has lost a lot of it's member to charismatic churches partly because of his actions.

4. Introduce deliverance and inner healing ministry. Accept that doctrine. Stop preaching false doctrines such as Once Saved Forever Saved.

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Malaysian Rattler's avatar

Thank you for your reply, I am sure this was a traumatic experience for you and I do appreciate the time you are spending responding to these queries. I just need to prod a bit more :

1. I understand that you contest Dinesh's pastorship & that you feel he is unqualified. But can I ask why you believe he is unqualified? Is your conclusion based on the fact that he was the last person from St Mary's who spoke to Audrey? Or is there something more that I am missing?

2. I understand you feel that you have been mistreated and that Dean Andrew did not address the situation. But can I understand what form this mistreatment took? And what do you mean by toxic? what exactly happened?

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PLUCare's avatar

1. If he genuinely had the Holy Spirit dwelling in him, I believe that his prayer for Audrey would have prevented the her tragic unaliving. I think the problem with Dinesh is he believes in Once Saved Forever Saved. So he doesn't really see Audrey's unaliving as a significant traumatic event. If you ask him, he and Andrew Cheah will probably say she is with Jesus and in Heaven now cause they both believe in the same false doctrine. I will say that I don't know if Audrey is in Heaven or Hell.

2. There were many form of mistreatment by the members of the church towards me and Andrew Cheah looked past all of them and I think he blamed me for being unstable. I do have Bipolar2 so he doesn't take my concerns or my plight seriously. I have also developed severe resentment towards him which I am working to heal from.

The point is Audrey should be alive today. Her unaliving was very unfortunate and it could have been prevented. If there is anything you need to take away from our conversation here, it is that. God bless.

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Malaysian Rattler's avatar

Ok thank you for your responses and sorry this hashed up historical hurts. It does sound like you had a hard time, I do hope you find some peace.

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